rosexknight asked: Dude you are taking it too far with those comparisons and statements about the USA. I thought you were supposed to be against racism and intolerance and bullying but you're just as bad as them.
I’m sorry you feel that way but I’m really not sure why you’re saying I’m just as bad as them. I haven’t made jokes or bullied anyone. I’m just speaking my mind and sharing my opinions on subjects that I have been researching for a while now.
I’m sorry if I’m hurting some people’s feelings but this is serious and more people need to start seeing the bigger picture.
12:22 pm • 16 June 2014 • 2 notes
Anonymous asked: You are going to be so embarrassed with yourself for ever thinking this entire thing was a good idea.
Stepping up to the plate and loudly speaking out to prevent a hate crime may seem embarrassing initially but it’s the right thing to do and I know the greatest reward will be when we’re living in a society free from hate.
12:12 pm • 16 June 2014
Anonymous asked: I appreciate what you're going for, yet I have my disagreements. This is my opinion, no need for pissy comments. So, here goes. It's the internet, with millions of sites. Can't you just IGNORE 4chan? That'd be a reasonable thing to do.
rosexknight:
a-random-mod:
shutdown4chan:
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shutdown4chan:
Can’t you just IGNORE the nazis?
Can’t you just IGNORE 9/11?
Can’t you just IGNORE that gaping flesh wound in your neck?
No, bad things happen when you live in ignorance. Innocent people die.
While 4chan can be considered quite small when compared to the rest of the internet (facebook, tumblr, twitter etc) that doesn’t mean they don’t have a disproportionate level of power. They’ve hacked politicians and governments, they’ve hacked major tech companies and used their technical superiority to harass normal people to the point of suicide.
It’s almost like saying the wealthiest 1% have no power over the 99%.
Racism is unacceptable, even if their numbers are apparently small. Racism is like a cancer that’s just waiting to grow uncontrollably and destroy an otherwise healthy society. The only known treatment for cancer is to identify it early and hit it hard. You need to fight it with everything you have.
4chan is the racist 1%
4chan is a racist cancer
We are the 99% and it’s time to fight this cancer.
Pretty sure some people would get offended by you comparing an internet website to the fucking holocaust and 9/11.
Mainly, the people who witnessed it and the people who had to fight wars because of it. At the moment, you are actually worse than 4chan because you’re actually serious in the comparison. Congrats, you’re even worse than the thing that you are trying to fight.
Maybe if the USA wasn’t so intolerant to Islam we would not have had 9/11
Maybe if the Nazis weren’t so intolerant to Judaism we would not have had a holocaust
I’m confident the victims of these atrocities would agree with me that we must do what we can to stop intolerance before it’s too late. It’s actually probably quite insulting to suggest that we stay ignorant.
You do know that the big difference between 4chan and the other things is that 9/11 and the holocaust lead to the deaths of many, many people.
Unless at least half a million people are killed by 4chan users, then I don’t think you should compare them.
Dude it wasn’t just “intolerance” that caused the holocaust or 9/11.
The Nazis were literally brainwashed, usually from birth, with propaganda spelling out that they were awesome and anyone who wasn’t them (Which btw weren’t just Jews. It was also Gypsies, Christians, Homosexuals, etc.). They became this way because Germany was dying and were so fucking desperate for help that they put Hitler in power, who promised to fix Germany’s problems. And, for all intensive purposes, HE DID! He was just ya know killing too many people. It wasn’t “intolerance” it was fucking desperation and extremists fighting for their country. Not every German soldier was a Nazi. Hell most of the German Army were just patriots fighting because their country needed them to do so and they needed a job.
And it wasn’t “intolerance” that caused 9/11. The Islam and Christian religions have been pitted against each other FOR CENTURIES!! And while the Christian religion says the path to salvation is through Jesus and faith, the Islam religion states that you can be rewarded for dying honorably in a war for your religion. It wasn’t “intolerance” it was extremists fighting for what they believed in. Not every Islamic follower is a terrorist.
Don’t compare a fucking Internet website to great tragedies because you’re butthurt about some fucking trolls. You are not on the same level. Don’t fucking pretend to be.
“The Nazis were literally brainwashed, usually from birth, with propaganda spelling out that they were awesome and anyone who wasn’t them (Which btw weren’t just Jews. It was also Gypsies, Christians, Homosexuals, etc.).”
Sounds a lot like 4chan to me. They’re indiscriminate in who they discriminate against and they’re targetting their victims when they’re young. There are thousands of young people under the age of 15 who regularly use their site.
“They became this way because Germany was dying and were so fucking desperate for help that they put Hitler in power,”
The USA is dying (because bankers caused the 2nd depression) and the people are desperate for help. While there is no person specifically taking up the role of “Hitler #2”, there is plenty of evidence to show that disillusioned people are looking to extremists for a solution. Whether it is the ignorant people resorting to voting UKIP in an attempt to solve their EU problem (4chan heavily supports UKIP) or the Russian neo-nazis who have taken advantage of the unstable situation in Ukraine to try and violently claim land in East Ukraine (I’ll quickly point out that Ukrainian Jews have been receiving death threats and have been forced to evacuate the country).
What we’re doing with the campaign against 4chan is to try and prevent another great tragedy like the Holocaust or 9/11. We’re trying to recognize early the events that led up to and finally caused them.
4chan flags up all of the early warning signs to a catastrophe and people are still remaining too quiet about it. I think people may be scared to say anything.
4chan and the Anonymous ideology must be exterminated or else good people will suffer.
Ok, ok, Maybe exterminated is a little bit emotionally charged and harsh but they definitely need better role models in their lives.
12:08 pm • 16 June 2014 • 28 notes
Anonymous asked: I appreciate what you're going for, yet I have my disagreements. This is my opinion, no need for pissy comments. So, here goes. It's the internet, with millions of sites. Can't you just IGNORE 4chan? That'd be a reasonable thing to do.
loatheoflaughing:
shutdown4chan:
shutdown4chan:
Can’t you just IGNORE the nazis?
Can’t you just IGNORE 9/11?
Can’t you just IGNORE that gaping flesh wound in your neck?
No, bad things happen when you live in ignorance. Innocent people die.
While 4chan can be considered quite small when compared to the rest of the internet (facebook, tumblr, twitter etc) that doesn’t mean they don’t have a disproportionate level of power. They’ve hacked politicians and governments, they’ve hacked major tech companies and used their technical superiority to harass normal people to the point of suicide.
It’s almost like saying the wealthiest 1% have no power over the 99%.
Racism is unacceptable, even if their numbers are apparently small. Racism is like a cancer that’s just waiting to grow uncontrollably and destroy an otherwise healthy society. The only known treatment for cancer is to identify it early and hit it hard. You need to fight it with everything you have.
4chan is the racist 1%
4chan is a racist cancer
We are the 99% and it’s time to fight this cancer.
Maybe if the U.S. wasn’t so intolerant to Islam we wouldn’t have had 9/11
WHAT
Do you remember that weird little time we like to call “the 90s” when we spent our time irradiating and crippling most of Iraq and the middle east?
Yeah, it pissed people off and mutilated their children. It’s not a far stretch from the truth to outright say that the USA spends its time mutilating children.
11:37 am • 16 June 2014 • 28 notes
Anonymous asked: I appreciate what you're going for, yet I have my disagreements. This is my opinion, no need for pissy comments. So, here goes. It's the internet, with millions of sites. Can't you just IGNORE 4chan? That'd be a reasonable thing to do.
a-random-mod:
shutdown4chan:
Can’t you just IGNORE the nazis?
Can’t you just IGNORE 9/11?
Can’t you just IGNORE that gaping flesh wound in your neck?
No, bad things happen when you live in ignorance. Innocent people die.
While 4chan can be considered quite small when compared to the rest of the internet (facebook, tumblr, twitter etc) that doesn’t mean they don’t have a disproportionate level of power. They’ve hacked politicians and governments, they’ve hacked major tech companies and used their technical superiority to harass normal people to the point of suicide.
It’s almost like saying the wealthiest 1% have no power over the 99%.
Racism is unacceptable, even if their numbers are apparently small. Racism is like a cancer that’s just waiting to grow uncontrollably and destroy an otherwise healthy society. The only known treatment for cancer is to identify it early and hit it hard. You need to fight it with everything you have.
4chan is the racist 1%
4chan is a racist cancer
We are the 99% and it’s time to fight this cancer.
Pretty sure some people would get offended by you comparing an internet website to the fucking holocaust and 9/11.
Mainly, the people who witnessed it and the people who had to fight wars because of it. At the moment, you are actually worse than 4chan because you’re actually serious in the comparison. Congrats, you’re even worse than the thing that you are trying to fight.
Maybe if the USA wasn’t so intolerant to Islam we would not have had 9/11
Maybe if the Nazis weren’t so intolerant to Judaism we would not have had a holocaust
I’m confident the victims of these atrocities would agree with me that we must do what we can to stop intolerance before it’s too late. It’s actually probably quite insulting to suggest that we stay ignorant.
11:27 am • 16 June 2014 • 28 notes
undeadwill88:
martynaklepacka:
Real shit.
You don’t seem to understand the case at all.
That’s not exactly a very good rebuttal. It sounds exactly like the case to me.
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11:13 am • 16 June 2014 • 197 notes
silver-tongues-blog asked: anon was kind of right. No matter what way people have fun, someone will be offended. You need to think realistically. The internet reflects the real world. There are just as many assholes in the real world as there are on 4chan. How do I know? Because all the people on 4chan are just people on their computers in real life. That is why they will win. Because you're just treating symptoms of reality instead of going to the source.
4chan is the source. That’s why it’s the preferable target for rehabilitation and adjustment BEFORE it is a chance to become metastatic and hit the rest of the internet. If we do what we can to educate and influence even a small portion of them then it will reduce the overall damage if it ever does spread.
I’d like to extend an apology to any real life cancer victims for using your illness as a metaphor. My time is limited and I’m short for words. I know that doesn’t excuse my actions but if I can think of a more apt comparison in the future I will go back and change the posts.
11:09 am • 16 June 2014 • 2 notes
doctorcage-deactivated20211229 asked: Stop your whining and get over it.
Spoken like a true loser. If we listened to people like you we wouldn’t have landed on the moon.
11:01 am • 16 June 2014 • 1 note
Anonymous asked: I appreciate what you're going for, yet I have my disagreements. This is my opinion, no need for pissy comments. So, here goes. It's the internet, with millions of sites. Can't you just IGNORE 4chan? That'd be a reasonable thing to do.
Can’t you just IGNORE the nazis?
Can’t you just IGNORE 9/11?
Can’t you just IGNORE that gaping flesh wound in your neck?
No, bad things happen when you live in ignorance. Innocent people die.
While 4chan can be considered quite small when compared to the rest of the internet (facebook, tumblr, twitter etc) that doesn’t mean they don’t have a disproportionate level of power. They’ve hacked politicians and governments, they’ve hacked major tech companies and used their technical superiority to harass normal people to the point of suicide.
It’s almost like saying the wealthiest 1% have no power over the 99%.
Racism is unacceptable, even if their numbers are apparently small. Racism is like a cancer that’s just waiting to grow uncontrollably and destroy an otherwise healthy society. The only known treatment for cancer is to identify it early and hit it hard. You need to fight it with everything you have.
4chan is the racist 1%
4chan is a racist cancer
We are the 99% and it’s time to fight this cancer.
10:58 am • 16 June 2014 • 28 notes
Anonymous asked: You do know you're going to lose? You're not supposed to take 4chan seriously, they just make jokes. It's the internet, we're supposed to have fun.
You’re having fun hurting people. I think the word you’re looking for is “sociopath”.
10:45 am • 16 June 2014 • 1 note
Anonymous asked: Why do you support shutting down an entire website because of some of the things posted on it? Yes, you may find many of the posts disgusting and vile (as do most other people), but is that reason to shut the entire thing down? You're not a part of the 4chan community. They aren't a section on a website you frequent, so why does it matter to you what they say? Note that I'm not trying to be antagonistic here, I'm legitimately curious.
When you let people be anonymous, they start being assholes because they suddenly don’t think they’re people talking to people anymore. Why do you think Facebook doesn’t allow anonymous accounts? It’s because they understand that anonymity encourages people to be horrible to everyone, lowering the tone and making everyone feel bad.
4chan influences children to not take responsibility for their actions. 4chan influences children to be offensive with no consideration to the consequences because they have a sense of entitlement.
No, you’re not entitled to mock anyone for being “different”.
You’re not entitled to say horrid things to people that you don’t have the courage to say to them in person. 4chan is full of cowards, a trait found in many racists.
10:44 am • 16 June 2014 • 2 notes
losseplads asked: That picture isn't a hoax the reason LOIC shows up as malware is because its used for DDOS'ING just like downloading Cheat engine would make your antivirus go crazy
It is a hoax. 4chan has been trying very hard in recent weeks to hijack any social justice movement. I also read, with my own eyes, the thread where they were discussing how to inject specially designed malware that would attack tumblr and its users instead.
Why would you be downloading cheats?
10:37 am • 16 June 2014 • 1 note
traceurdude :
So, Have you ever sat down and dug through ALL the Shit that is 4chan? You named… 4? boards. Great. Now, I’ve been browsing 4chan for almost 2 years now. Like most people, I started out on /b/. and have since then moved on to the other boards. I now go to boards such as /asp/ where I have made and become friends with people all over the world.(Cali, New York, Ireland, England, Germany, Spain). I’ve since met up and trained with them. From /fit/ I have learned how to take care of myself better, what to eat. Hell, They even taught me how to have confidence in myself. I’m even getting help in keeping my French Skills up from some dude from France on /int/ While I take a semester off to save up to go back
But now lets get to /b/.
I’m not going to bother to ask you if you have lurked for long periods of time, but if you have you would know. As much of a hassle they are, have you seen the amount of people they STOP from doing things? I have witnessed them report numerous school shootings, and report credit card theft(against a black woman. How bout that?)
Now, Isn’t there like a whole “Acceptance” for people who want to “Express” themselves? So, Why cant I express myself about how black people got their asses ripped apart by a far more technology advanced Britain, before I go and train with my Black Friend and Marvel at how he moves is body? Why cant I express how Gay people bug me when I’m hit on by them, but then go Drink with My Gay Brothers, and bring in the dudes to help them get laid?
I await what will be 4th of July for this to happen. Whatever is about to happen.
That’s a very touching story and I’m glad you’ve found some friends, everyone deserves some friends but think to yourself for a little while. Could you do any better? Could you be any better? Are you happy with aiming for the bottom and dragging everyone down with you?
Your flippant attitudes to social issues are harmful. Period. Have you ever heard of the “butterfly effect”? A few jokes about n-words and transpeople here and there couldn’t possibly do any harm. Or could it? Put your ego on hold for a minute and think about the big picture. Those little jokes touch a number of people, a percentage of them will think “They made a horrible disgusting joke, maybe it’s ok if I do the same thing and pass the joke on to my other friends.”
And the cycle has begun. Pretty soon you find yourself in a situation where a vulnerable minority being the butt of a joke is 100% normalized. No-one spoke up, no-one rocked the boat and now you have people killing themselves because the “jokes” are too much.
It doesn’t matter how many “good” things /B/ claims to have done. 100 rights don’t make up for the 1 big wrong.
Your culture needs to change because you’re pretty much a manifestation of everything that’s wrong with the world.
10:24 am • 16 June 2014 • 1 note
shutdown4chan:
A brief introduction to what the 4chan website is, how it functions and what the users are like.
4:01 am • 16 June 2014 • 86 notes
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Patriarchy means societies where men dominate women. Like all systems of domination, it ultimately depends on violence to extract consent from the subordinated. In patriarchal societies, men rape, batter, buy or trade, torture and murder women. Other forms of coercion may include economic, legal and cultural institutions, but sexual violence is at the core of patriarchy. Mary Daly points out that patriarchy is the ruling religion of the planet. It’s all variations on the theme of masculinity asserting itself by killing women and pretty much everything, usually for a sexual thrill. In The Chalice and The Blade, Riane Eisler writes that “underlying the great surface diversity of human culture are two basic models of society.” The first she calls the partnership model, societies that are egalitarian, nonviolent and life-affirming. The second is the dominator model, which values the power to establish and enforce domination.
In her ground breaking article “The socio-cultural context of rape: a cross-cultural study,” anthropologist Peggy Reeves-Sanday studied 95 band and tribal cultures and found that 47% were rape-free while 18% were rape-prone. In rape-free societies, women are respected and influential members of their communities; sacred beings are conceived of as both male and female; economic and political power is held equally between the sexes; nurturing and childrearing are understood as the basis of human interactions; and there is an attitude of reverence instead of dominance toward the earth. In these cultures, rape is considered abhorrent and there are severe consequences for perpetrators. In West Sumatra, the subject of Reeves-Sanday’s book Women at the Center: Life in a Modern Matriarchy, a man who rapes has disgraced himself and all his kin, and will face assault, exile or death.
In contrast, in rape-prone societies, women hold limited economic and political power; men express contempt for women as decision makers; god is male; masculinity is predicated on an ideology of toughness and cruelty; and violence is an acceptable method of settling disputes. Welcome to America.
The basic psychological dynamic of masculinity is that men are men because they aren’t women. Women are the hated Other. Hating her, hurting her, is how boys become men. Masculinity breeds a personality based on entitlement, arrogance and cruelty, which is compelled to prove itself again and again. Inherent in masculinity is a violation imperative: in acts of invading and conquering, men become men. The brilliance of male supremacy is that it links acts of political oppression to sexual response. Not only is the soldier-rapist rewarded with orgasm when he dominates/rapes, but his action feels “natural” rather than political. This welding of domination and subordination to sexual arousal, and the accompanying normalization of oppression, is the deep heart of patriarchy. And these acts of oppression become what sex is—how sex is practiced, how arousal is experienced—under male supremacy.
For instance, researchers tried to show male viewers a film scene depicting violence—not sexual violence, just regular old violence—against women. And they found that they couldn’t. No matter what the film showed (hitting, punching, kicking) at least 25% of the men would get an erection. Sexual domination and subordination are institutionalized into the very concepts of masculine and feminine. Masculinity is simply a conglomeration of the personality traits necessary for the patriarchal soldier-rapist: physically strong, emotionally cauterized, rational, domineering, cruel. All of this is supposed to add up to “handsome” as well. Likewise femininity is ultimately a description of the personality that results from trauma and powerlessness: weak, passive, yielding, emotional, hyper-vigilant to the needs of the dominators and desperate for the dominator’s attention.
In patriarchy, political oppression is thus experienced as normal and natural. It’s easy to turn the rapist into the soldier—the template is already in place. Instead of “woman,” fill the Despised Other category with the racial or ethnic group of your choice, and watch men—good soldiers all—rise to the occasion. Sheila Jeffries names this the erotic roots of fascism. This ethic of domination and violation extends beyond interactions between humans to human relations with animals and the earth. Animals aren’t seen as sentient beings capable of suffering. They are instead mechanical units of production to be used in factory farms and laboratories. Or they aren’t seen at all, as their habitats are destroyed for more agribusiness plantations, oil wells and suburban sprawl. The earth isn’t a complex web of interdependent life forms co-creating a living home, deserving our humility, reverence and respect. It’s instead so many board feet of lumber, so many gallons of crude: one part garbage dump to two parts profit margin. The violation imperative inherent in masculinity finds its full expression in modern science—invading the boundaries of the atom with nuclear physics and of life itself with genetic engineering.
It’s heretical to name men. It’s blasphemous to state the simple facts. Around the world and across time men have beaten, raped and incested us; burned us as witches and widows; demanded that our feet be bound, our genitals mutilated, our bodies starved; bought and sold us; kept us captive and veiled; and simply tortured us to death. With the advent of technologies of mass communications, they’ve also filmed it all and made a fortune while creating a population of serial sex killers. The first step in stopping these atrocities is to name who is doing what to whom. And that’s hard, psychologically. It’s not intellectually hard. The facts are overwhelming, indisputable. But psychologically it can be terrifying. And you will be punished. Still, if we want anything like liberty, we are going to have to do it. There was that famous speech by Russell Means, “For America to Live, Europe Must Die.” I agree. And I’d add, for the earth to live, masculinity must die. If we want to end rape, stop racism, save the planet, men have to stop being men.
I’m going to end with a comment addressed specifically to any men who are still reading this. You can be traitors to your class. You don’t have to be good soldiers, good Germans. You can shift your loyalties. You can learn to identify with women. It’s even to your benefit to do so. Growing up, I saw what happened to turn my brother from a child into a boy and then into a man. It was brutal. Male socialization is pretty ghastly. And as long as there is war, the rich, old men will sacrifice the young men on the altar of power and profit. Men may not be defined a priori as victims, as fuckable, like women are, but you can be fucked. 1 in 11 boys are sexually abused. That’s a lot of abuse. As long as domination is eroticized, as long as violence and violation constitute masculinity, you aren’t free either. My question is: how many of you will face that and cast your lot with us?
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IN THE WAKE - An Interview with Lierre Keith
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2:01 am • 16 June 2014 • 2,291 notes