Remember, 4chan actively campaigns for violent attacks against LGBT.
They support and laugh at the murders of innocent people!
This is exactly why we NEED to stand up to them.
We can’t be afraid of them. They’re dangerous idiots who need impeded.
you do realize /lgtb/ is a thing, right?
/k/ is usually a pretty big LGBT supporter. Different boards have different assholes. /pol/ and /b/ need to be burned.
I think if people are clever with their posts they could get 4chan users from different boards to fight amongst themselves. It would have the upside of distracting them from harassing us.
Hi everyone, sorry we’re a little late. We’ve been a little busy doing some pride work for the summer and forgot about the internet a little. I feel like a bit of an idiot for missing most of the day but it’s not over yet.
It looks like their mods could be on our side, they banned some idiot who was deliberately exaggerating things.
Great work on the second thread. It’s a little sarcastic but I’m sure that will annoy them even more. Remember, you don’t have to take them too seriously, just use up all of their space.
“In one study, participants were asked to rank the humor in various cartoon captions. Half of the captions had been written by men, and half by women. When not told who wrote what, the participants judged them almost equally funny. In fact, based on the scores given in this experiment, men are just 2.2 percent more likely to be funny than women. Yet 90 percent of the participants agreed with the stereotype that men are funnier. Talk about a mind-bogglingly huge difference in perception versus reality. And it gets weirder — when the participants were asked which gender they thought wrote a caption, the funnier ones were almost always assumed to be by men and the less funny ones by women. This might be expected, considering their stated bias. Even when told the name and gender of the person who wrote each caption, within a short time the participants started misattributing the funny ones to men. In other words, even when they knew that women had written some of the funniest captions, the bias that men are funnier was so ingrained that it made them misremember who had written what.”
Friendly reminder to look out for people who try to brainwash you.
Friendly reminder that Anonymous and the Men’s Rights Movement frequently use brainwashing tactics to manipulate you. Always be careful when you read anything they say.
but yea, you’re right, men have sooooooo many more rights than women, women are being oppressed because they can’t wear only panties in school and aren’t allowed to run around topless.
What’s funny is that like, nearly every problem you listed for men is addressed by feminism all the time, or is the result of the same forces that feminism is trying to dismantle. (Or isn’t true.)
The draft is sort of a silly example, since no one has been drafted since Vietnam. BUT women’s exclusion from military service is based on the belief that women are too weak for combat. Feminism addresses this.
Feminism is a strong advocate banning all genital mutilation.
Men are told their problems don’t matter because it is the prevailing gender role that men are strong and women are weak. Feminism addresses this.
Again, men’s abuse is often cast aside because of prevailing gender roles that hold that women are too weak to be abusers. (also interesting how I only ever see male victims mentioned when someone wants to criticize feminism. Huh.) Feminism works to address this.
Men are not objectified in the same ubiquitous systematic way that women are in our culture.
But nice of you to boil down all of women’s concerns to “we want to run around in panties” rather than focusing on our domestic abuse rates, sexual assault rates, lack of economic equity, lack of political equity, legal restrictions to our preventative health care and reproductive health care measures, and lack of positive media representation.
And here is the reason why I’m so tired of MRA crap. I’ve never seen anyone advocating for Men’s Rights to talk about legit men’s issues on their own merit. Never seen them rally for black men, or gay men, or bisexual men, or trans men, or disabled men. Never seen them challenge the military industrial complex for commodifying their lives.
I’ve only ever seen people talk about men’s issues when a breath later they use it to try and slam feminism. Because if you REALLY cared about these issues, you’d be fighting along side us, rather than trying to get us to “shut up and stop complaining. “
In the first ten days of June, seventeen teenage boys were abducted in the occupied West Bank. The youngest was thirteen, the oldest seventeen.
Some were dragged at gunpoint from their homes and family in the middle of the night; others were seized from the streets in broad daylight.
All of the abductions were documented by the Palestinian Monitoring Group. None were reported by the international media. No Western politicians called for the release of the boys.
On 12 June, three more teenage boys went missing in the West Bank. Their disappearance sparked worldwide media coverage, cries of terrorism and demands for their release by the US Secretary of State and the UK Foreign Secretary.
Those three are Israeli. The seventeen others are Palestinian.
And, if the case of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, taken by Palestinian forces in Gaza in 2006 and released in 2011, is any indication, Western interest in the case of these three Israelis will not wane until they are found.
Anonymous asked: Here is a question I have for you: Why is it wrong for people today to have opinions that are to the right or more conservative than the current "correct" answer to the problem. Why do liberals like you (as I am guessing you are one) and most of the media and internet for that matter call opinions other than your own "misogynistic" or "racist" or "intolerant" when in reality is is just another rational question. Suppressing opinions won't get you anywhere.
It’s not that we target opinions “that aren’t our own”. It’s that the fallacies that your opinions contain are blindingly obvious to us and it’s difficult finding time to break down every-single-god-damn-thing into something that you can understand. I’ll admit that sometimes people find it difficult to take the time and properly defend, point for point, the silly arguments that are thrown at us constantly.
People are very busy with the other inherent drawbacks in their lives and struggle to just keep up with everyone else nevermind answering to the predictable questions that the privileged percentage throw at us ad nauseam.
So puh-leaze forgive us for not giving enough special attention to humor deliberately ignorant shitheads.
July 4th is specifically meant to be a day where you get our special attention. I figured you might be a little more pleased.
“It is physically and emotionally draining to be called upon to prove that these systems of power exist. For many of us, just struggling against them is enough — now you want us to break them down for you? Imagine having weights tied to your feet and a gag around your mouth, and then being asked to explain why you think you are at an unfair disadvantage. Imagine watching a video where a young man promises to kill women who chose not to sleep with him and then being forced to engage with the idea that maybe you are just a hysterical feminist seeing misogyny where there is none. It is incredibly painful to feel that in order for you to care about my safety, I have to win this verbal contest you have constructed “for fun.””
@Hijabinist has been subjected to dragging for over a week. The insults range from outrage that she has a Christmas Tree to mental illness slurs to the outrageous false of equivalency of wearing the Hijab being akin to Nazism - mainly from Feminists & Atheists. by me as @CreativeAspie
It often confuses me how many supposed “intersectional feminists” can assume that Islam automatically means misogyny and terrorism. Like really? Are you serious? On one hand they say they’re non-judgmental and ready to listen then two seconds later they show outrageous ignorance and prejudice.
Anonymous asked: I appreciate what you're going for, yet I have my disagreements. This is my opinion, no need for pissy comments. So, here goes. It's the internet, with millions of sites. Can't you just IGNORE 4chan? That'd be a reasonable thing to do.
Can’t you just IGNORE that gaping flesh wound in your neck?
No, bad things happen when you live in ignorance. Innocent people die.
While 4chan can be considered quite small when compared to the rest of the internet (facebook, tumblr, twitter etc) that doesn’t mean they don’t have a disproportionate level of power. They’ve hacked politicians and governments, they’ve hacked major tech companies and used their technical superiority to harass normal people to the point of suicide.
It’s almost like saying the wealthiest 1% have no power over the 99%.
Racism is unacceptable, even if their numbers are apparently small. Racism is like a cancer that’s just waiting to grow uncontrollably and destroy an otherwise healthy society. The only known treatment for cancer is to identify it early and hit it hard. You need to fight it with everything you have.
4chan is the racist 1%
4chan is a racist cancer
We are the 99% and it’s time to fight this cancer.
Pretty sure some people would get offended by you comparing an internet website to the fucking holocaust and 9/11. Mainly, the people who witnessed it and the people who had to fight wars because of it. At the moment, you are actually worse than 4chan because you’re actually serious in the comparison. Congrats, you’re even worse than the thing that you are trying to fight.
Maybe if the USA wasn’t so intolerant to Islam we would not have had 9/11
Maybe if the Nazis weren’t so intolerant to Judaism we would not have had a holocaust
I’m confident the victims of these atrocities would agree with me that we must do what we can to stop intolerance before it’s too late. It’s actually probably quite insulting to suggest that we stay ignorant.
You do know that the big difference between 4chan and the other things is that 9/11 and the holocaust lead to the deaths of many, many people.
Unless at least half a million people are killed by 4chan users, then I don’t think you should compare them.
Dude it wasn’t just “intolerance” that caused the holocaust or 9/11.
The Nazis were literally brainwashed, usually from birth, with propaganda spelling out that they were awesome and anyone who wasn’t them (Which btw weren’t just Jews. It was also Gypsies, Christians, Homosexuals, etc.). They became this way because Germany was dying and were so fucking desperate for help that they put Hitler in power, who promised to fix Germany’s problems. And, for all intensive purposes, HE DID! He was just ya know killing too many people. It wasn’t “intolerance” it was fucking desperation and extremists fighting for their country. Not every German soldier was a Nazi. Hell most of the German Army were just patriots fighting because their country needed them to do so and they needed a job.
And it wasn’t “intolerance” that caused 9/11. The Islam and Christian religions have been pitted against each other FOR CENTURIES!! And while the Christian religion says the path to salvation is through Jesus and faith, the Islam religion states that you can be rewarded for dying honorably in a war for your religion. It wasn’t “intolerance” it was extremists fighting for what they believed in. Not every Islamic follower is a terrorist.
Don’t compare a fucking Internet website to great tragedies because you’re butthurt about some fucking trolls. You are not on the same level. Don’t fucking pretend to be.
Not to mention, the entire middle east were pissed at america because we basically went in, killed a bunch of people and stole all their oil.
See? Greed, not intolerance. Get your fucking facts straight you piece of Internet shit.
Also, if the website did get shut down by a force of dramatic, yet ironic, fate, the people who are on the site will just move to another site. rinse and repeat.
Exactly! It’s useless to even try to shut down this site. If anything you just need to try and make them get more/better moderators for when someone is being bullied or something.
It’s because they don’t understand. They just want a cause to fight for and a flag to wave. And the gratification and attention of people being behind them.
Just like Down With Molestia.
I’m going to be generous and give your posts some air time because you’re complaining about being ignored.
It’s not that anyone is afraid of you or that you’re secretly right, it’s the fact that reposting your incorrect drivel is wasteful and irritating for everyone to scroll through over-and-over again. Apologies to everyone who had to see all this again.
I have confidence that what I’m doing is right and I’m the type of person who will readily admit when they’re wrong. So please, feel free to pat yourselves on the back because you feel ignored and need an ego-boost.
Anonymous asked: I appreciate what you're going for, yet I have my disagreements. This is my opinion, no need for pissy comments. So, here goes. It's the internet, with millions of sites. Can't you just IGNORE 4chan? That'd be a reasonable thing to do.
Can’t you just IGNORE that gaping flesh wound in your neck?
No, bad things happen when you live in ignorance. Innocent people die.
While 4chan can be considered quite small when compared to the rest of the internet (facebook, tumblr, twitter etc) that doesn’t mean they don’t have a disproportionate level of power. They’ve hacked politicians and governments, they’ve hacked major tech companies and used their technical superiority to harass normal people to the point of suicide.
It’s almost like saying the wealthiest 1% have no power over the 99%.
Racism is unacceptable, even if their numbers are apparently small. Racism is like a cancer that’s just waiting to grow uncontrollably and destroy an otherwise healthy society. The only known treatment for cancer is to identify it early and hit it hard. You need to fight it with everything you have.
4chan is the racist 1%
4chan is a racist cancer
We are the 99% and it’s time to fight this cancer.
Pretty sure some people would get offended by you comparing an internet website to the fucking holocaust and 9/11. Mainly, the people who witnessed it and the people who had to fight wars because of it. At the moment, you are actually worse than 4chan because you’re actually serious in the comparison. Congrats, you’re even worse than the thing that you are trying to fight.
Maybe if the USA wasn’t so intolerant to Islam we would not have had 9/11
Maybe if the Nazis weren’t so intolerant to Judaism we would not have had a holocaust
I’m confident the victims of these atrocities would agree with me that we must do what we can to stop intolerance before it’s too late. It’s actually probably quite insulting to suggest that we stay ignorant.
Patriarchy means societies where men dominate women. Like all systems of domination, it ultimately depends on violence to extract consent from the subordinated. In patriarchal societies, men rape, batter, buy or trade, torture and murder women. Other forms of coercion may include economic, legal and cultural institutions, but sexual violence is at the core of patriarchy. Mary Daly points out that patriarchy is the ruling religion of the planet. It’s all variations on the theme of masculinity asserting itself by killing women and pretty much everything, usually for a sexual thrill. In The Chalice and The Blade, Riane Eisler writes that “underlying the great surface diversity of human culture are two basic models of society.” The first she calls the partnership model, societies that are egalitarian, nonviolent and life-affirming. The second is the dominator model, which values the power to establish and enforce domination.
In her ground breaking article “The socio-cultural context of rape: a cross-cultural study,” anthropologist Peggy Reeves-Sanday studied 95 band and tribal cultures and found that 47% were rape-free while 18% were rape-prone. In rape-free societies, women are respected and influential members of their communities; sacred beings are conceived of as both male and female; economic and political power is held equally between the sexes; nurturing and childrearing are understood as the basis of human interactions; and there is an attitude of reverence instead of dominance toward the earth. In these cultures, rape is considered abhorrent and there are severe consequences for perpetrators. In West Sumatra, the subject of Reeves-Sanday’s book Women at the Center: Life in a Modern Matriarchy, a man who rapes has disgraced himself and all his kin, and will face assault, exile or death.
In contrast, in rape-prone societies, women hold limited economic and political power; men express contempt for women as decision makers; god is male; masculinity is predicated on an ideology of toughness and cruelty; and violence is an acceptable method of settling disputes. Welcome to America.
The basic psychological dynamic of masculinity is that men are men because they aren’t women. Women are the hated Other. Hating her, hurting her, is how boys become men. Masculinity breeds a personality based on entitlement, arrogance and cruelty, which is compelled to prove itself again and again. Inherent in masculinity is a violation imperative: in acts of invading and conquering, men become men. The brilliance of male supremacy is that it links acts of political oppression to sexual response. Not only is the soldier-rapist rewarded with orgasm when he dominates/rapes, but his action feels “natural” rather than political. This welding of domination and subordination to sexual arousal, and the accompanying normalization of oppression, is the deep heart of patriarchy. And these acts of oppression become what sex is—how sex is practiced, how arousal is experienced—under male supremacy.
For instance, researchers tried to show male viewers a film scene depicting violence—not sexual violence, just regular old violence—against women. And they found that they couldn’t. No matter what the film showed (hitting, punching, kicking) at least 25% of the men would get an erection. Sexual domination and subordination are institutionalized into the very concepts of masculine and feminine. Masculinity is simply a conglomeration of the personality traits necessary for the patriarchal soldier-rapist: physically strong, emotionally cauterized, rational, domineering, cruel. All of this is supposed to add up to “handsome” as well. Likewise femininity is ultimately a description of the personality that results from trauma and powerlessness: weak, passive, yielding, emotional, hyper-vigilant to the needs of the dominators and desperate for the dominator’s attention.
In patriarchy, political oppression is thus experienced as normal and natural. It’s easy to turn the rapist into the soldier—the template is already in place. Instead of “woman,” fill the Despised Other category with the racial or ethnic group of your choice, and watch men—good soldiers all—rise to the occasion. Sheila Jeffries names this the erotic roots of fascism. This ethic of domination and violation extends beyond interactions between humans to human relations with animals and the earth. Animals aren’t seen as sentient beings capable of suffering. They are instead mechanical units of production to be used in factory farms and laboratories. Or they aren’t seen at all, as their habitats are destroyed for more agribusiness plantations, oil wells and suburban sprawl. The earth isn’t a complex web of interdependent life forms co-creating a living home, deserving our humility, reverence and respect. It’s instead so many board feet of lumber, so many gallons of crude: one part garbage dump to two parts profit margin. The violation imperative inherent in masculinity finds its full expression in modern science—invading the boundaries of the atom with nuclear physics and of life itself with genetic engineering.
It’s heretical to name men. It’s blasphemous to state the simple facts. Around the world and across time men have beaten, raped and incested us; burned us as witches and widows; demanded that our feet be bound, our genitals mutilated, our bodies starved; bought and sold us; kept us captive and veiled; and simply tortured us to death. With the advent of technologies of mass communications, they’ve also filmed it all and made a fortune while creating a population of serial sex killers. The first step in stopping these atrocities is to name who is doing what to whom. And that’s hard, psychologically. It’s not intellectually hard. The facts are overwhelming, indisputable. But psychologically it can be terrifying. And you will be punished. Still, if we want anything like liberty, we are going to have to do it. There was that famous speech by Russell Means, “For America to Live, Europe Must Die.” I agree. And I’d add, for the earth to live, masculinity must die. If we want to end rape, stop racism, save the planet, men have to stop being men.
I’m going to end with a comment addressed specifically to any men who are still reading this. You can be traitors to your class. You don’t have to be good soldiers, good Germans. You can shift your loyalties. You can learn to identify with women. It’s even to your benefit to do so. Growing up, I saw what happened to turn my brother from a child into a boy and then into a man. It was brutal. Male socialization is pretty ghastly. And as long as there is war, the rich, old men will sacrifice the young men on the altar of power and profit. Men may not be defined a priori as victims, as fuckable, like women are, but you can be fucked. 1 in 11 boys are sexually abused. That’s a lot of abuse. As long as domination is eroticized, as long as violence and violation constitute masculinity, you aren’t free either. My question is: how many of you will face that and cast your lot with us?
